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The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below.

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North America1000
02:47, 8 September 2016 (UTC)
  • Comment As an adult she never came close to winning a match at a world championship, finishing near the bottom at both events. She has no medals in a significant international competition. The article on her and her sisters looks like good coverage. If other sources can be found, WP:GNG might be met. I'm not inclined to say that appearing on reality TV shows is enough to show notability, though others may disagree. Papaursa (talk) 04:18, 9 September 2016 (UTC)
  • Firstly, Wikipedia:Notability_(people)#Sports_personalities states that an . So, it clearly states that the long-term participation in the major competitions is enough to satisfy the WP:NSPORT. And the concerned amateur wrestler has represented her country in the top amateur wrestling events for more than one decade. I guess that's 'active' enough. Secondly, as far as WP:GNG is concerned, there are enough reliable independent sources in the English and the other languages, e.g. 1, https://unitedworldwrestling.org/article/six-ways-to-break-the-shackles 2, http://www.livemint.com/Consumer/HIz0Bjduoa4PF7VstG9u8M/Wrestling-For-Indian-women-strength-gives-pride.html 3, http://www.rediff.com/movies/slide-show/slide-show-1-interview-with-sonika-kaliraman-tv/20111011.htm 4, http://rajasthanpatrika.patrika.com/story/sports/sonika-kaliraman-indias-first-lady-wrestler-2244860.html 5, http://www.deshbandhu.co.in/newsdetail/22958/1/0#.V9JhwPl97cc 6, http://khabar.ibnlive.com/photogallery/meet-sonika-kaliraman-indias-first-female-pro-wrestler-394779-12.html 7, http://navbharattimes.indiatimes.com/sports/other-sports/after-saw-vijendar-kumar-sonika-kaliraman-going-in-professional-wrestling/articleshow/48211680.cms 8, http://www.nayaindia.com/magzine/wrestling-indian-players-485989.html 9, http://divyamarathi.bhaskar.com/news/SPO-SOTH-story-of-indias-first-women-wrestler-sonika-kaliraman-5333685-PHO.html?seq=1 10, etc. But I guess the WP:GNG will come into picture if she fails the WP:NSPORT, which doesn't seem to be the case here. - NitinMlk (User talk:NitinMlktalk) 09:39, 9 September 2016 (UTC)

    :You should add these sources to the article. The presumption of notability does not guarantee notability. WP guidelines still say reliable sources are needed. Because of the number of organizations, events, and divisions simply competing at a martial arts world championship has not always been sufficient to show notability. Papaursa (talk) 16:06, 10 September 2016 (UTC)

    ::Papaursa, there's not necessarily a need to add the sources to the article to pass AfD. Please see WP:NEXIST. Fieari (talk) 00:35, 16 September 2016 (UTC)

    :::It's not about passing the AfD, it's about improving the article. Papaursa (talk) 19:40, 18 September 2016 (UTC)

  • Keep I believe that NitinMlk has provided enough coverage to show WP:GNG is met. It's still debatable whether she's notable for her wrestling alone. Even one of the sources provided says she has accomplished nothing at the international level (at least according to my computer translation). However GNG trumps any SNG. Papaursa (User talk:Papaursatalk) 16:06, 10 September 2016 (UTC)


  • Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, —UY Scuti Talk 19:45, 15 September 2016 (UTC)
    • Keep per WP:NEXIST and NitinMlk's sources, above. Fieari (talk) 00:35, 16 September 2016 (UTC)
    • Delete. when an arguement for 1notability has to use something as vague as "participated in ", then its likely thee is not substantial notability. It's accepted that Jr. league victories in any sport do not count, and that 'sall the accomplishments. DGG ( talk ) 00:15, 23 September 2016 (UTC) ß
    It's not some far-fetched argument – it's the relevant wiki policy. At present, unlike many other Olympic sports, amateur wrestling doesn't have separate notability criteria – check at WP:ATH. So, only alternative left here is to use the Wikipedia:Notability_(people)#Sports_personalities, which the subject meets easily. In any case, to meet the WP:GNG, there's more than enough coverage of her in the third-party reliable sources. BTW, what's vague about the term "participated in"? At least in the case of sports tournaments, its meaning is crystal clear. - NitinMlk (talk) 08:08, 23 September 2016 (UTC)


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